Nonlifts in S11(K(8))+ are old forms
The one nonlift eigenform in S11(K(8))+
must be the old form coming from the nonlift eigenform in
S11(K(4))−.
This already proves S11(K(8))+ has at least one nonlift eigenform
and hence Borcherds products are not needed to help span this Fricke eigenspace.